I Was right in the middle of humping 107 and at about 11:35 CST I got a bunch of errors about telescoping cars and corrupt train and knucklehead errors, train deleted due to corrupt or something like that.
Mike might need to take a look at this, so I left the train right where it sits now on the hump bridge.
I had the hump setup, it was halfway through the train when it happened. I must admit I was distracted flying around, so totally my fault
WC is different than BAR in you can't set speed control and walk away due to the grade. Besides any bowl you hump you should be paying attention or at least be in a position to hear cars coupling or line of sight that the cars are getting close. I sometimes do housework when I run BAR but I'd never try it in WC.
When I got home from work last night Run 8 was not responding, so it didn't crash but had to be stopped and re-started which in the end requires the same procedure to get the server available again. I was able to load from an AutoSave about 5 min prior to the crash. Based on the condition of the bowl and the train that was being humped it appears the "EC" cars are the ones that would have overfilled the bowl and caused an issue.
It's certainly my expectation that everyone is accountable for the trains they are operating in the yards (or anywhere), or have put under AI control while working in the yards.
Mike
I usually hump in 2 throttle with about 30-40 lbs of independent set. I added a 3rd SD40 to the hump set for the extra braking because of this. The train pulls you over the hump until about the last 20-25 cars. 2.7 has been the speed that works reliably for me, although anything from about 2.3 should also work.
I've also found that with WC's hump, I need to stay in draw distance of the bowl. Flying further away causes strange anomalies in car routing, tracks self-deleting, and occasional corruption. You can check to see how the bowl is filling, look at the receiving tracks, or open tagger to look at the cut you're shoving, but not much more than that without rolling the dice.
Another oddity, and this may be with Barstow as well, is that when the last cars are rolling down the hill, I can't immediately relinquish the hump power to AI, or the last few cars may be misrouted. I wait until the last cut has made it to its track before initiating the AI Recrew.
That's right you can't relinquish before the last car hits the last switches at BAR (unless they are in the same group than the last to go over only). Usually BAR is much easier with speed control and no brakes, but I've seen WC is much more demanding on watching the train.
Never thought of the moving around to different spots causing issues as that makes sense. Basically the processing of the Hump AI is in the clients control (unlike other things looking for the server such as normal AI).
Normally I just sit myself in the hump tower, zoom as needed (since there is no change in draw objects here) relax and enjoy the show. I also keep the bell on as a reminder when the engines are getting close to the hump. Again BAR is more forgiving for a bit of an escape from the controls as WC is.
Due to the hump controller being client side, anyone should retain control of hump power until all cars have cleared the switches. This will affect both WC and BAR. BAR is probably more sensitive to it due to the tighter spacing.
Does this information require its own post/procedure entry? Some of this is new to me.
