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LVF·3/17/2015 in BNSF San Bernardino Yard

Unit Grain train to SBD

I have gone back to look at BNSF source material concerning Grain shipments to San Bernardino and Verdemont in particular. This is what I found:

Concise highlights for Grain shipments to Verdemont

1. Unit Grain train from midwest of 110 to 120 cars direct to San Bernardino. 2. Minimum of 26 cars blocked to each destination. 3. Four different blocks maximum per train. 4. San Bernardino has a Grain car to truck unloading facility in San Bernardino that is not modeled in Run8 5. Unit Grain train from midwest must return with the same 110 to 120 cars as a blocked unit.

I have the original BNSF Documents if anyone wants to look at them.

From this I suggest that the Grain train from SBD to Cargill should be 26 cars to be unloaded at a time. Then transferred back to SBD. Cuts of 10 cars, then 8 cars and 8 cars can be handled at Cargill. Also, some of the Grain cars should be unloaded at SBD while sitting in the East "B" Yard to represent the Grain to truck unloading facility not modeled.

Leland

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SurvivorSean·3/17/2015

The thing with that is because some things aren't modeleed, and that the 26 is only a minimum it can probably take on more. I'll take a look at that again specifically the rate tables to various places such as Fresno etc. I would have to do quite a few changes as I believe I'm getting grain from the north as well from VAW via the northern plains and Canada.

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I'm not sure that Cargill can take any more than 26 at a time from experience working the plant switcher. With the BNSF info I have I can't determine the origin from the charts.

Leland

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SurvivorSean·3/18/2015

I'm not sure where exactly this discount actually counts for BNSF, the original source train? I believe at the moment (someone can correct me on this as I'm not going to verify this) GBARSBD brings in grain only when we have enough cars. I don't think we have ever made a determination that we only send an exact amount. 26 times 4 for this train would be 104. I could be wrong on what the source trains are. Someone can check the registry to verify this (again I'm not going to worry about it right now). But I think I have some coming in off of VAW from the north and others coming in off another WB?? I don't believe I have a symbol coming into BAR that is a direct grain train. Again I can look into this when I add the new trains in. But for now I have to focus on Florida. Once I've got that set up I should have enough time to switch focus back on California in determining new symbols. The symbols are showing in red that I need to add. It's just a matter of slotting and changing the waybills. If there is a specific change that needs to be made to make the grain trains more realistic, I can certainly try and have this in by next cycle. The only thing I would mention is exact numbers is something that RTS does not do well. Perhaps somewhere down the road I can have a minimum and maximum setting where by forcing an industry to a specific number.

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SurvivorSean·6/23/2015

Another point to ponder in all of this as I look further in our past (this is why documents are so valid). Anyone having a proposal should create a document for this very reason or else it would of been lost knowledge.

You mentioned the rail to truck. I believe Yermo has a similar facility Scott mentioned to me once a pon a time. But that puts a wrench into things because instead of having it all come out of Cargill it may very well be majority to truck. I believe Scott had a facility as well he designated on the maps (which at the moment are lost to me). I believe it may well have been one of those unused sidings but I forget where or the capacity.

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What do you think?